21 Eylül 2014 Pazar

Let's discuss the potential Mega Evolutions for X2/Y2/Z.

Yep. We are doing this again.

The recent news about Clemont potentially getting a Luxio has sparked a small discussion on Serebiiforums about a potential Mega Luxray. I argued that since Luxio is only available in Friend Safari, and since post-E4 Pokémon tend to end up as part of the national dex, it will probably end up as a Mega for the next Kalos games.

Of course, I also argued previously that the amount of the post-E4 Pokémon is roughly enough to have an entire new dex out of, with potentially a starter trio thrown into mix alongside to more Pokémon if you count in fossils.

So, this made me wonder, what if the post-E4 Pokémon are planned to have Megas? While I doubt the focus will be intentionally on the new Southern Kalos dex, the problem is, there is only so few Gen VI Pokémon they can give Megas to, because there are so few fully evolved Gen VI Pokémon(like, around 30). So the focus has to be on the newcomers somehow.

For those who are looking for an easy list for the potential new additions, here's the list(it is available in my Dropbox as well):

Friend Safari Exclusive Mons

1.      Minccino
2.      Cinccino
3.      Happiny
4.      Chansey
5.      Blissey
6.      Lillipup
7.      Herdier
8.      Stoutland
9.      Aipom
10.  Ambipom
11.  Krabby
12.  Kingler
13.  Pineco
14.  Forretress
15.  Drilbur
16.  Excadrill
17.  Bronzor
18.  Bronzong
19.  Beldum
20.  Metang
21.  Metagross
22.  Klink
23.  Klang
24.  Klinklang
25.  Drowzee
26.  Hypno
27.  Munna
28.  Musharna
29.  Natu
30.  Xatu
31.  Girafarig
32.  Wurmple
33.  Silcoon
34.  Beautifly
35.  Cascoon
36.  Dustox
37.  Venonat
38.  Venomoth
39.  Grimer
40.  Muk
41.  Snorunt
42.  Glalie
43.  Froslass
44.  Spheal
45.  Sealeo
46.  Walrein
47.  Seel
48.  Dewgong
49.  Phanpy
50.  Donphan
51.  Numel
52.  Camerupt
53.  Shellos
54.  Gastrodon
55.  Tympole
56.  Palpitoad
57.  Seismitoad
58.  Tangela
59.  Tangrowth
60.  Sunkern
61.  Sunflora
62.  Sewaddle
63.  Swadloon
64.  Leavanny
65.  Petilil
66.  Lilligant
67.  Deerling
68.  Sawsbuck
69.  Maractus
70.  Duskull
71.  Dusclops
72.  Dusknoir
73.  Spiritomb
74.  Pidove
75.  Tranquill
76.  Unfezant
77.  Rufflet
78.  Braviary
79.  Tropius
80.  Growlithe
81.  Arcanine
82.  Ponyta
83.  Rapidash
84.  Magby
85.  Magmar
86.  Magmortar
87.  Larvesta
88.  Volcarona
89.  Vulpix
90.  Ninetales
91.  Mankey
92.  Primeape
93.  Hitmonlee
94.  Hitmonchan
95.  Tyrogue
96.  Hitmontop
97.  Shroomish
98.  Breloom
99.  Togepi
100.                     Togetic
101.                     Togekiss
102.                     Cleffa
103.                     Clefairy
104.                     Clefable
105.                     Elekid
106.                     Electabuzz
107.                     Electivire
108.                     Shinx
109.                     Luxio
110.                     Luxray
111.                     Blitzle
112.                     Zebstrika
113.                     Joltik
114.                     Galvantula
115.                     Seedot
116.                     Nuzleaf
117.                     Shiftry
118.                     Vullaby
119.                     Mandibuzz
120.                     Cacnea
121.                     Cacturne
122.                     Paras
123.                     Parasect

Post-E4 Pokémon:
1.      Kabuto
2.      Kabutops
3.      Omanyte
4.      Omastar
5.      Anorith
6.      Armaldo
7.      Lileep
8.      Cradily
9.      Cranidos
10.  Rampardos
11.  Shieldon
12.  Bastiodon
13.  Archen
14.  Archeops
15.  Tirtouga
16.  Carracosta

Unavailable Mons:
1.      Rattata
2.      Raticate
3.      Meowth
4.      Persian
5.      Koffing
6.      Weezing
7.      Porygon
8.      Mew
9.      Chikorita
10.  Bayleef
11.  Meganium
12.  Cyndaquil
13.  Quilava
14.  Typhlosion
15.  Totodile
16.  Croconaw
17.  Feraligatr
18.  Misdreavus
19.  Unown
20.  Porygon2
21.  Stantler
22.  Raikou
23.  Entei
24.  Suicune
25.  Lugia
26.  Ho-Oh
27.  Celebi
28.  Treecko
29.  Grovyle
30.  Sceptile(Confirmed for Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire)
31.  Torchic
32.  Combusken
33.  Blaziken(Confirmed prior to Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire)
34.  Mudkip
35.  Marshtomp
36.  Swampert(Confirmed for Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire)
37.  Slakoth
38.  Vigoroth
39.  Slaking
40.  Baltoy
41.  Claydol
42.  Feebas
43.  Milotic
44.  Castform
45.  Regirock
46.  Regice
47.  Registeel
48.  Latias
49.  Latios
50.  Kyogre(Confirmed Primal Reversion for Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire)
51.  Groudon(Confirmed Primal Reversion for Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire)
52.  Rayquaza(Confirmed for Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire)
53.  Jirachi
54.  Deoxys
55.  Turtwig
56.  Grotle
57.  Torterra
58.  Chimchar
59.  Monferno
60.  Infernape
61.  Piplup
62.  Prinplup
63.  Empoleon
64.  Kricketot
65.  Kricketune
66.  Cherubi
67.  Cherrim
68.  Buneary
69.  Lopunny(Confirmed for Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire)
70.  Mismagius
71.  Glameow
72.  Purugly
73.  Finneon
74.  Lumineon
75.  Porygon-Z
76.  Uxie
77.  Mesprit
78.  Azelf
79.  Dialga
80.  Palkia
81.  Heatran
82.  Regigigas
83.  Giratina
84.  Cresselia
85.  Phione
86.  Manaphy
87.  Darkrai
88.  Shaymin
89.  Arceus
90.  Victini
91.  Snivy
92.  Servine
93.  Serperior
94.  Tepig
95.  Pignite
96.  Emboar
97.  Oshawott
98.  Dewott
99.  Samurott
100.                     Cottonee
101.                     Whimsicott
102.                     Darumaka
103.                     Darmanitan
104.                     Yamask
105.                     Cofagrigus
106.                     Frillish
107.                     Jellicent
108.                     Tynamo
109.                     Eelektrik
110.                     Eelektross
111.                     Elgyem
112.                     Beheeyem
113.                     Bouffalant
114.                     Cobalion
115.                     Terrakion
116.                     Virizion
117.                     Tornadus
118.                     Thundurus
119.                     Reshiram
120.                     Zekrom
121.                     Landorus
122.                     Kyurem
123.                     Keldeo
124.                     Meloetta
125.                     Genesect

Standard Non-Hoenn Unavailable Pokémon:
1.      Rattata
2.      Raticate
3.      Porygon
4.      Misdreavus
5.      Unown
6.      Porygon2
7.      Kricketot
8.      Kricketune
9.      Cherubi
10.  Cherrim
11.  Buneary
12.  Lopunny(Confirmed for Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire)
13.  Mismagius
14.  Glameow
15.  Purugly
16.  Finneon
17.  Lumineon
18.  Porygon-Z
19.  Cottonee
20.  Whimsicott
21.  Darumaka
22.  Darmanitan
23.  Yamask
24.  Cofagrigus
25.  Frillish
26.  Jellicent
27.  Tynamo
28.  Eelektrik
29.  Eelektross
30.  Elgyem
31.  Beheeyem
32.  Bouffalant

A large amount of these Pokémon has already been confirmed to have Mega Evolutions in OR/AS, and many others are likely to have so.

As for the trademarked Pokémon, here's the most likely incomplete list:
Diancie(Confirmed for Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire!)
Quilladin
Frogadier
Volcanion
Dedenne
Bunnelby
Meowstic
Chesnaught
Zygarde
Delphox
Hoopa(Confirmed Alternate Forme)
Greninja
Furfrou
Braixen

We will likely discuss these again when the full list of OR/AS Mega Evolutions is revealed.

Edit(29/09/2014): Updated with confirmed OR/AS Mega Evolutions.
 Edit(15/10/2014): Updated with confirmed OR/AS Mega Evolutions.
Edit(06/11/2014): Updated with confirmed Megas and Forme.
Edit (26/11/2014): Removed Litwick-line as unavailable, since they are available in Kalos. All Unavailable Pokémon save for event legendaries are available in OR/AS, by the way.
Edit (29/11/2014): After a brief discussion with Bolt the Cat from Serebiiforums I decided to recheck Unova's expanded dex and I found out that some of the trainer exclusive Pokémon in B/W were actually available in B2/W2. So here's the above lists reorganized for the seen data:


Seen Friend Safari Pokémon:
1.      (Krabby)
2.      Kingler
3.      Leavanny
4.      Spiritomb
5.      (Ponyta)
6.      Rapidash
7.      Igglybuff
8.      (Jigglypuff)
9.      (Wigglytuff)
10.  (Bronzor)
11.  Bronzong
12.  (Klink)
13.  (Klang)
14.  Klinklang
15.  (Snorunt)
16.  (Glalie)
17.  Froslass
18.  (Sewaddle)
19.  (Swadloon)
20.  Leavanny
21.  Spiritomb
22.  (Rufflet)
23.  Braviary
24.  Tropius
25.  (Ponyta)
26.  Rapidash
27.  (Larvesta)
28.  Volcarona
29.  (Vulpix)
30.  Ninetales
31.  (Cleffa)
32.  (Clefairy)
33.  Clefable
34.  (Vullaby)
35.  Mandibuzz

Seen Unavailable Pokémon:
1.      (Koffing)
2.      Weezing
3.      (Meowth)
4.      Persian
5.      Porygon
6.      (Porygon2)
7.      Porygon-Z
8.      Raikou
9.      Suicune
10.  Entei
11.  Buneary
12.  (Lopunny)
13.  (Cherubi)
14.  Cherrim
15.  Elgyem
16.  (Beheyeem)
17.  (Cottonee)
18.  Whimsicott
19.  (Frillish)
20.  Jellicent
21.  (Tynamo)
22.  Eelektrik
23.  Eelektross
24.  Bouffalant

Friend Safari Chatelaine Pokémon:
1.      (Mankey)
2.      Primeape
3.      Girafarig
4.      (Deeerling)
5.      Sawsbuck

Unseen Friend Safari Exclusive Pokémon:
1.      Togepi
2.      Togetic
3.      Togekiss
4.      Minccino
5.      Cinccino
6.      Happiny
7.      Chansey
8.      Blissey
9.      Lillipup
10.  Herdier
11.  Stoutland
12.  Aipom
13.  Ambipom
14.  Pineco
15.  Forretress
16.  Drilbur
17.  Excadrill
18.  Beldum
19.  Metang
20.  Metagross
21.  Drowzee
22.  Hypno
23.  Munna
24.  Musharna
25.  Natu
26.  Xatu
27.  Wurmple
28.  Silcoon
29.  Beautifly
30.  Cascoon
31.  Dustox
32.  Venonat
33.  Venomoth
34.  Grimer
35.  Muk
36.  Spheal
37.  Sealeo
38.  Walrein
39.  Seel
40.  Dewgong
41.  Phanpy
42.  Donphan
43.  Numel
44.  Camerupt
45.  Shellos
46.  Gastrodon
47.  Tympole
48.  Palpitoad
49.  Seismitoad
50.  Tangela
51.  Tangrowth
52.  Sunkern
53.  Sunflora
54.  Petilil
55.  Lilligant
56.  Maractus
57.  Duskull
58.  Dusclops
59.  Dusknoir
60.  Pidove
61.  Tranquill
62.  Unfezant
63.  Growlithe
64.  Arcanine
65.  Magby
66.  Magmar
67.  Magmortar
68.  Hitmonchan
69.  Hitmonlee
70.  Tyrogue
71.  Hitmontop
72.  Shroomish
73.  Breloom
74.  Elekid
75.  Electabuzz
76.  Electivire
77.  Shinx
78.  Luxio
79.  Luxray
80.  Blitzle
81.  Zebstrika
82.  Joltik
83.  Galvantula
84.  Seedot
85.  Nuzleaf
86.  Shiftry
87.  Cacnea
88.  Cacturne

Unavailable Maison Chatelaine Pokémon:
1.      (Glameow)
2.      Purugly
3.      (Finneon)
4.      Lumineon
5.      Cobalion
6.      Terrakion
7.      Virizion
8.      Tornadus
9.      Thundurus
10.  Landorus
11.  Regirock
12.  Regice
13.  Registeel
14.  Latias
15.  Latios

Unseen Unavailable Pokémon:
1.      Rattata
2.      Raticate
3.      Chikorita
4.      Bayleef
5.      Meganium
6.      Totodile
7.      Croconaw
8.      Feraligatr
9.      Cyndaquil
10.  Quilava
11.  Typhlosion
12.  Misdreavus
13.  Mismagius
14.  Unown
15.  Stantler
16.  Lugia
17.  Ho-oh
18.  Celebi
19.  Treecko
20.  Grovyle
21.  Sceptile
22.  Torchic
23.  Combusken
24.  Blaziken
25.  Mudkip
26.  Marshtomp
27.  Swampert
28.  Slakoth
29.  Vigoroth
30.  Slaking
31.  Baltoy
32.  Claydol
33.  Feebas
34.  Milotic
35.  Castform
36.  Groudon
37.  Kyogre
38.  Rayquaza
39.  Deoxys
40.  Jirachi
41.  Turtwig
42.  Grotle
43.  Torterra
44.  Chimchar
45.  Monferno
46.  Infernape
47.  Piplup
48.  Prinplup
49.  Empoleon
50.  Kricketot
51.  Kricketune
52.  Uxie
53.  Mesprit
54.  Azelf
55.  Dialga
56.  Palkia
57.  Heatran
58.  Regigigas
59.  Giratina
60.  Cresselia
61.  Phione
62.  Manaphy
63.  Darkrai
64.  Shaymin
65.  Arceus
66.  Victini
67.  Snivy
68.  Servine
69.  Serperior
70.  Tepig
71.  Pignite
72.  Emboar
73.  Oshawott
74.  Dewott
75.  Samurott
76.  Darumaka
77.  Darmanitan
78.  Yamask
79.  Cofagrigus
80.  Reshiram
81.  Zekrom
82.  Kyurem
83.  Keldeo
84.  Meloetta
85.  Genesect

Edit (24/03/2015): For other notable Pokémon, here's the checklist;
Mega Butterfree, as Butterfree is Beedrill's version counterpart.
Mega Slowking, as Slowking is Slowbro's evolutionary counterpart.
Mega Froslass, as Froslass is Glalie's evolutionary counterpart.
Mega Goodra, as Goodra is the pseudo-legendary of Kalos.
Mega Heliolisk, as Heliolisk is the early Electric-type of Kalos.
Mega Talonflame, Torkoal, Pyroar or Chandelure, as Malva has no potential Megas.
Mega Aegislash, Mega Noivern, and Mega Barbaracle, as they are the signatures of each Elite Four member(but others have other Pokémon for potential Mega Evolutions).
Presumably there will be more Gen V Pokémon, but outside of a few formerly trademarked Pokémon like Druddigon, Bisharp and Galvantula I can't think of much. It is also likely that most of the types will gain more Megas for themselves, but I can't say anything about them.

Edit(10/04/2015): Gen V with trademarks;
Serperior
Emboar
Samurott
Liepard
Simisage
Simisear
Simipour
Musharna
Gigalith
Excadrill
Audino(already has lol)
Krookodile
Sigilyph
Carracosta
Archeops
Zoroark
Cinccino
Haxorus
Bisharp
Druddigon
Volcarona
Legendaries

Gen IV with trademarks:
Togekiss
Leafeon
Legendaries
Lickilicky
Weavile
Abomasnow(Already has lol)
Carnivine
Lucario(Already has lol)
Chatot
Lopunny(Already has lol)
Ambipom
Cherrim
Roserade
Empoleon
Infernape
Torterra


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